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		<title>The Stomping Ground &#8211; Cascading Overdrive/Distortion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As guitar players, we are constantly searching for a unique sound: our player-unique tone that sets us apart from other guitarists. Even the most modest of gear heads is likely to have more than one overdrive, distortion, or both in their signal chain. I’m going to discuss some dos and don&#8217;ts of using these pedals [&#8230;]</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As guitar players, we are constantly searching for a unique sound: our player-unique tone that sets us apart from other guitarists. Even the most modest of gear heads is likely to have more than one overdrive, distortion, or both in their signal chain.</p>
<p>I’m going to discuss some dos and don&#8217;ts of using these pedals and give some input on my experiences using both simultaneously.</p>
<p>Firstly, when using these two, it’s important to understand in a practical sense what each pedal is doing to your signal. That doesn’t mean you need to be a physicist or audio engineer to understand what’s going on with your sound, but use your ears and experiment entirely with your pedal to see what it’s doing. The two biggest things to consider when using overdrive and distortion pedals are <strong>compression</strong> and <strong>gain</strong>.</p>
<p>It’s important to understand how compressed your signal is getting from your pedal because we have all been in a situation wherein we get on stage after spending months perfecting our tone, only to result in a vast difference between stage volume/tone and practice-room/bedroom volume/tone. Or, have you ever been at an open mic and heard someone performing, and even though their amp is seemingly loud and heavily distorted, you can’t make out a single note they are playing? Compression is almost always the culprit with an overly distorted tone.</p>
<p>Gain consideration is important because you need to make sure your pedals are all sending a balanced (equal-volumed) signal, OR at the signal balance that you want them at.</p>
<p>For example, I have a <em>JHS Lowdrive</em> (overdrive pedal), and a <em>Wampler Plextortion</em> (distortion pedal) that are my two main “gain/distortion” sounds I use on my pedal board. Without complicating my example, let’s just say for this conversation that my signal is: Guitar &gt; JHS &gt; Wampler &gt; Amp (Figure A)</p>
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<p>I have my JHS set so with my volume cranked on my guitar and playing full pick-strength, my clean volume and JHS-on volume are balanced with the <u>stage volume I use my amp at</u>. My Wampler-on is also balanced with my clean channel, but what is important about my signal chain is how much the Wampler compresses my channel compared to my JHS. Because of the compression, I can turn on my JHS and Wampler at the same time to increase the distortion, but with an insignificant change in gain (volume, decibels, however you would like to refer to it).</p>
<p>IF I had set up my JHS and Wampler in the following order: Guitar &gt; Wampler &gt; JHS &gt; Amp (Figure B), it would be a lot more difficult for me to run both pedals at the same time without increasing my overall volume significantly. The reason is because now the JHS is increasing the gain of Wampler without the same compression the Wampler provides for the JHS.</p>
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<p>This may seem a little wordy and complicated, but try it for yourself and make these mistakes at home! Even if you’re not interested in using both pedals at the same time, knowing this and setting your pedals up accordingly can help avoid embarrassing feedback squeals, or destroying a sound-guy’s ears/equipment by accidentally mis-pressing a pedal.</p>
<p>First, set up your pedals so when they are turned on, the volume is balanced with the clean channel. I would recommend that you do this with the amp set to a medium volume (if the amp is too quiet, it is essentially compressing the signal so you could have the pedal cranked and you wouldn&#8217;t even know the difference until you had to bring everything up to stage volume).</p>
<p>Try plugging in both pedals and turning everything on with one configuration, then the other. You’ll immediately notice that by putting the distortion pedal as the second pedal in the chain (or simply AFTER the overdrive pedal) that the tone created is much more manageable and without a significant volume boost. And trust me, if your volume is all over the place in an unmusical fashion, sound-guys don’t consider that to be “dynamic”. It’s just annoying.</p>
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		<title>Tone Secrets of the Electric 12-String Guitar</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Love]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I've been playing the electric twelve string guitar professionally for the last 16 years in my band The Carpet Frogs. Guitar players have often complimented me on the tone of my electric 12 string and have asked me how I get that "authentic" sound! For me, it all started with the two Godfathers of the electric 12 string: George Harrison of the Beatles and Roger McGuinn of The Byrds. Obviously, the first ingredient is a great 12 string. The Granddaddy of them all is the Rickenbacker 12 string.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>I&#8217;ve been playing the <a href="https://eastwoodguitars.com/collections/12-string-guitars">electric twelve-string guitars</a> professionally for the last 16 years in my band The Carpet Frogs. Guitar players have often complimented me on the tone of my electric 12 string and have asked me how I get that &#8220;authentic&#8221; sound!</h2>
<div id="attachment_779" style="width: 399px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-779" title="Rickenbacker 360/12 Old Style 12-String Electric Guitar" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/rickenbacker-36012-old-style-12-string-electric-guitar.jpg" alt="Rickenbacker 360/12 Old Style 12-String Electric Guitar" width="389" height="284" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/rickenbacker-36012-old-style-12-string-electric-guitar.jpg 389w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/rickenbacker-36012-old-style-12-string-electric-guitar-300x219.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 389px) 100vw, 389px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Rickenbacker 360/12 Old Style 12-String Electric Guitar</p></div>
<p>For me, it all started with the two Godfathers of the electric 12 string: <strong>George Harrison of the Beatles and Roger McGuinn of The Byrds</strong>. Obviously, the first ingredient is a great 12 string. The Granddaddy of them all is the Rickenbacker 12 string.</p>
<p>Ricks have been handmade in the same factory in Santa Ana, California for many years and if you can find a dealer that sells and stocks Rickenbacker, you will pay thousands of dollars and you may end up waiting many months for the model of your dreams. I waited 8 months for my 360/12 Old Style when I bought it in 1990.</p>
<p>If you play in a weekend band or jam with your friends, you may find that the electric 12 string, once you have done all of the mandatory Beatles, Byrds, Animals, Who, Tom Petty, R.E.M., and Smiths tunes, has a rather limited use for the rest of your repertoire. Or, maybe not. If you&#8217;re like me, you&#8217;d happily play the electric 12 all night!</p>
<div id="attachment_780" style="width: 280px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-780" title="12-String Guitarist: David Love &amp; His Rickenbacker 12-string" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/david-love-12-string-guitarist-rickenbacker-02.jpg" alt="12-String Guitarist: David Love &amp; His Rickenbacker 12-string" width="270" height="307" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/david-love-12-string-guitarist-rickenbacker-02.jpg 270w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/david-love-12-string-guitarist-rickenbacker-02-263x300.jpg 263w" sizes="(max-width: 270px) 100vw, 270px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">12-String Guitarist: David Love &amp; His Rickenbacker 12-string</p></div>
<p>Crank up the input gain, compress the bejeezuz out of your 12 string and jangle away!</p>
<h3><strong>Tone Secret Number One: Compression!</strong></h3>
<p>George Harrison&#8217;s great 12 string tone came from a combination of three things: his matchless technique, the venerable Vox AC 30, and the Altec limiter that was in the Abbey Road studios. The Vox, with its all-tube EL 84 platform and its GZ34 rectifier gives any guitar that creamy, brown, compression sustain and chime but it really sparkles when you play an electric12 through it.</p>
<p>The Altec limiter is an old tube-type studio compressor/limiter that squishes the sound at the mixing console and simply enhanced the sound of those old AC 30&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Roger McGuinn of The Byrds has said that his tone came from recording his Rickenbacker directly into the console and running it through not one, but two Pultec Limiters at the same time! Listen to the opening figure of &#8220;Mr.Tambourine Man&#8221; and you&#8217;ll hear those compressors squeezing away!</p>
<p>Now I know many of you don&#8217;t have George&#8217;s or Roger&#8217;s technique (neither do I), or access to old AC 30&#8217;s (that can cost upwards of $5,000 for collectible examples) or old pieces of studio gear like Altec or Pultec limiters, but you can achieve the same effect with a good quality stomp box compressor. My personal favourite is the Diamond Compressor made here in Canada but any good compressor will do: Keely, Ross, Analog Man, Barber, MXR DynaComp, and the old standby BOSS CS-2 or 3.</p>
<h3><strong>Tone Secret Number Two: Flatwounds!</strong></h3>
<p>I discovered this Tone Secret the day I got my Rickenbacker 12. I had played other makes of electric 12&#8217;s before but they had never produced &#8220;that sound&#8221; that my Rick had. What was different about it? The single coil pickups that come standard on a Rick? The way Rickenbacker arranged the strings with the root string on top and the octave string underneath?</p>
<p>Both of these things had an influence on the way it sounded but the most important difference to me was the strings. They were not round wound like 99% of the strings that are on the market these days: they were flat wound!</p>
<p>Back when George and Roger were young men (1964), and before the late Ernie Ball started making round wound light gauge guitar strings in California, almost everybody played flat wound strings &#8211; that&#8217;s what was widely popular and available at the time. Round wounds were available but it wasn&#8217;t until The Shadows made them popular that there was a demand for them in Europe. The best flat wound strings in the world came from Germany (and still do) and were sold under the brand names of Pyramid and Thomastik.</p>
<p>Rickenbacker in California was buying Pyramids from Germany at the time (presumably because of the relationship they enjoyed with West German music retailers who were selling Rickenbacker guitars) so that was the string that was being installed on Rickenbackers from the California factory in early &#8217;63 and &#8217;64. So, the sound you hear on Beatles, Byrds, and The Who recordings &#8211; those are flat wound strings! The great Pete Townsend refers to them as &#8220;tape wound&#8221;. He won&#8217;t play his 12 string with anything else but!<br />
Pyramid strings are still available to this day (you can find them on the Internet) and Rickenbacker still sells their Number 95404 Compressed Medium Round Wound.</p>
<p>(ground wound) set for about $20.00 a set. I buy them by the box of 12 from a store in New York. I prefer the Rick strings: just a tad brighter than Pyramids.</p>
<p>Round wound strings on an electric 12 string sound like doo-doo. Too crashy and too clangy. Flat wounds or ground round wounds are the way to go if you want &#8220;that sound&#8221;. If you can&#8217;t find Rickenbacker strings where you live, your local music store probably sells or can order D&#8217;Addario Chrome singles in a flat wound with which you can assemble your own 12 string set.</p>
<p>The string gauge shipped on every new Rickenbacker is as follows from low to high:</p>
<ul>
<li>.042/.026</li>
<li>.034/.020W</li>
<li>.026/.013plain</li>
<li>.020wound/.010</li>
<li>.013/.013</li>
<li>.010/.010.</li>
</ul>
<div id="attachment_781" style="width: 410px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-781" title="12-String Guitarist: David Love &amp; His Rickenbacker 12-string" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/david-love-12-string-guitarist-rickenbacker-01.jpg" alt="12-String Guitarist: David Love &amp; His Rickenbacker 12-string" width="400" height="466" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/david-love-12-string-guitarist-rickenbacker-01.jpg 400w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/david-love-12-string-guitarist-rickenbacker-01-257x300.jpg 257w" sizes="(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">12-String Guitarist: David Love &amp; His Rickenbacker 12-string</p></div>
<h3><strong>Tone Secret Number Three: Use a light gauge pick!</strong></h3>
<p>Try it! It works! A medium is too stiff and , in my opinion, &#8220;sends&#8221; too much signal to the pickup. I have found that with a light gauge pick, you can strum harder but still have a sound that doesn&#8217;t break up from string distortion (over strumming).</p>
<p>That kind of vibe (string distortion) works great for, say, a PRS through a Dual Rectifier but not for the sweet chimey strings on your 12 string. I keep a medium and a thin pick in my back pocket whenever I&#8217;m on stage depending on whether it&#8217;s a 12 string song or a 6 string song.</p>
<p>The great Colin Cripps of Hamilton, Ontario, revealed this Tone Secret to me many years ago. Colin is the guitar player/composer/producer of bands like Crash Vegas, Junkhouse, The Jim Cuddy Band, and Kathleen Edwards.</p>
<h3><strong>Tone Secret Number Four: Get your 12-string set up!</strong></h3>
<p>Find yourself a good guitar technician and get him or her to set up your 12 string.</p>
<p>The #1 complaint I hear from new 12 string players is that they put the guitar down because it&#8217;s too difficult to play.</p>
<p>The 12 string, by its design, is a different and difficult instrument to play because basically you are stuffing 12 strings into the same real estate as 6 strings. Players with small hands (like me) don&#8217;t find a problem especially with Rickenbackers, which have notoriously narrow necks.</p>
<p>A good guitar tech will straighten the neck as well as it can possibly can be &#8211; this is really important. He/she may also suggest that the frets be &#8220;dressed&#8221;, polished and leveled. This will benefit your 12 string and make it very playable. Ask him/her to set the action as low as possible &#8211; this is really important!</p>
<p>Another innovation that Rickenbacker has developed is the 12 saddle tuneomatic bridge, which ensures near-perfect intonation. If your 12 string doesn&#8217;t have one, don&#8217;t despair. Any good guitar tech worth his or her salt will get your 12 string intonated as close as it can possibly be even if you have a 6 saddle bridge &#8211; very important if you want those big jangly chords to be as sweetly in tune as they should be.</p>
<p>A well-set electric 12 string should play like a brand new PRS or (insert your favourite guitar brand here). If it doesn&#8217;t, find yourself a new guitar tech!</p>
<h3>The best affordable 12-String Guitars</h3>
<p>As a professional musician &#8211; yes, I&#8217;ve got the Vintage AC-30 and the Ricky 12 &#8211; hard to see it any other way. However, there is a price to pay for perfection, and therefor II recommend to my guitar-playing friends who jam for fun, to buy an electric 12 that&#8217;s a little more affordable than a Rick. There aren&#8217;t many electric 12 strings on the market these days but a few models by Eastwood fit the bill very nicely, such as the Eastwood Nashville 12 (discontinued) or the <a href="https://eastwoodguitars.com/collections/12-string-guitars">Classic 12</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_9919" style="width: 475px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-9919" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb.jpg" alt="Eastwood Classic 12" width="465" height="620" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb.jpg 465w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb-225x300.jpg 225w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb-450x600.jpg 450w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb-50x67.jpg 50w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb-414x552.jpg 414w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/byp2wpff7aka0dzmfdwb-354x472.jpg 354w" sizes="(max-width: 465px) 100vw, 465px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Eastwood Classic 12, setting a new standard in price vs. affordability</p></div>
<p><strong>Mike Robinson</strong> from Eastwood consulted with me prior to the development of the <strong>Nashville 12</strong>. We discussed a variety of options and settled on this style as is was possible to achieve the tone (mini-humbukers) and setup (flat neck, low action) that would make it a &#8220;professional&#8221; grade instrument at an affordable price. Last month I visited Eastwood Guitars and took the prototype for a test drive. Two big thumbs up&#8230;&#8230; jangle away!</p>
<p>Currently, though, the hugely popular <a href="https://eastwoodguitars.com/collections/12-string-guitars/products/classic-12"><strong>Eastwood Classic 12</strong></a> is the model setting the standard for affordable, high-quality 12-strings, and is the best bet if you want to discover the joys of playing a 12-string guitar:</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Still want more? Visit the Eastwood Guitars website for a look at their full range of 12-string guitars:</p>
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<h3>Suggested Listening:</h3>
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<li><em><strong>Mr.Tambourine Man</strong></em> by The Byrds</li>
<li><strong><em>I Should Have Known Better</em></strong> by The Beatles</li>
<li><em><strong>A Hard Day&#8217;s Night</strong></em> by The Beatles</li>
<li><em><strong>The Waiting</strong></em> by Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers</li>
<li><em><strong>Kicks</strong></em> by Paul Revere and The Raiders</li>
<li><em><strong>You Were On My Mind</strong></em> by We Five</li>
<li><em><strong>Turn!Turn!Turn!</strong></em> by The Byrds</li>
<li><em><strong>Can&#8217;t Explain</strong></em> by The Who</li>
<li><strong><em>The Kids Are Alright</em></strong> by The Who</li>
<li><strong><em>It&#8217;s My Life</em></strong> by The Animals</li>
</ul>
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