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		<title>Joey Leone Says: Vintage Guitars vs. Reissue Guitars</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joey Leone]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This subject has been discussed many times in many places, so what do I do for my first column? I tackle a worn out subject with what I hope is a unique perspective. First, I will tell you that I have owned many vintage Fenders and Gibson's over the years. I still own the vintage Gibson's and do not own any more vintage Fenders (I guess that gives a preview of my take on Vintage Fender vs. Vintage Gibson). So let's get started!!!</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This subject has been discussed many times in many places, so what do I do for my first column? I tackle a worn out subject with what I hope is a unique perspective. First, I will tell you that I have owned many vintage Fenders and Gibson&#8217;s over the years. I still own the vintage Gibson&#8217;s and do not own any more vintage Fenders (I guess that gives a preview of my take on Vintage Fender vs. Vintage Gibson). So let&#8217;s get started!!!</p>
<p>Collectors note: This commentary does not address the investment aspect of vintage guitars, we all know by now that if it is an original vintage guitar, bought at a fair market price, it is basically a no-brainer. An A rated guitar like a 50&#8217;s Les Paul or a Pre-CBS Fender will increase in value at a 5% to 10% rate yearly. Where I find the excitement is in the C rated guitars and even certain reissue Gibson&#8217;s they are sometimes a real neat investment. Check out what has increased below the radar in the past and buy accordingly.</p>
<div id="attachment_106" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-106" title="Link Wray &amp; the Wraymen (Slinky Album Cover)" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/link-wray-the-wraymen-slinky-album-cover.jpg" alt="Link Wray &amp; the Wraymen (Slinky Album Cover)" width="300" height="302" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/link-wray-the-wraymen-slinky-album-cover.jpg 300w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/link-wray-the-wraymen-slinky-album-cover-100x100.jpg 100w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/link-wray-the-wraymen-slinky-album-cover-150x150.jpg 150w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/link-wray-the-wraymen-slinky-album-cover-298x300.jpg 298w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Link Wray &amp; the Wraymen (Slinky Album Cover)</p></div>
<p><strong>Vintage Gibson Guitars:</strong></p>
<p>If my opinions here are controversial, that&#8217;s okay. I am the guy that said Link Wray was a more important guitar player than Joe Satriani (sorry paisano).</p>
<p>To my ears, a vintage Gibson does sound different and in most cases better than the reissues. One of my contentions is that the more complicated construction of the Gibson as opposed to the Fender makes the aging aspect a big factor. For years I have heard guitar players all over the globe speak about giving a Martin guitar a chance to &#8220;break in&#8221;. I believe that this is true on all guitars, not just acoustics (I know some guitar players who are still waiting for their 70&#8217;s J-200&#8217;s to &#8220;break in&#8221;).</p>
<p>Some of you that might be thinking &#8220;okay, but if my reissue guitar ages it will sound the same&#8221;. ..maybe. The quality of materials and workmanship has a big factor here so the best I can say is, we&#8217;ll see. I believe that vintage Gibson&#8217;s (pre 1972) sound more &#8220;woody&#8221; with a bit more high mid&#8217;s, they also seem to be a bit more touch responsive. I would say IMHO that this is material and workmanship mostly and a bit less leaning on electronics. As a sidebar I think that the black sticker patent pickups give the PAF&#8217;s a run for their money as far as overall sound (not characteristics). Every pickup era has its own characteristics these should factor into your choice when you evaluate their place in your sound.</p>
<p>Many of the reissue and Historic Gibson&#8217;s are as far from being &#8220;historic&#8221; as you can get, period. The sound is okay and they look fine but in the sound department they cannot cut it as far as I can see but, there are exceptions. I was amazed at my ability to cop the Bloomfield &#8220;Super Session&#8221; tone playing a 2001 58 Authentic Flametop Reissue through a blackface Twin. They certainly got that one right for sure.</p>
<p>In conclusion I would say that vintage Gibson&#8217;s do sound better then the reissues across the board especially the semi-hollow and hollow bodies. Please A/B these guitars yourself and remember take no ones word as gospel unless you have done the comparisons yourself.</p>
<div id="attachment_107" style="width: 401px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-107" title="Vintage Guitars: Gibson Les Paul &amp; Fender Telecaster" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/vintage-gibson-les-paul-fender-telecaster-guitar.jpg" alt="Vintage Guitars: Gibson Les Paul &amp; Fender Telecaster" width="391" height="543" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/vintage-gibson-les-paul-fender-telecaster-guitar.jpg 391w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/vintage-gibson-les-paul-fender-telecaster-guitar-216x300.jpg 216w" sizes="(max-width: 391px) 100vw, 391px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Vintage Guitars: Gibson Les Paul &amp; Fender Telecaster</p></div>
<p><strong>Vintage Fender Guitars:</strong></p>
<p>What a feeling it is to hold a vintage Fender in your hands and play one, it&#8217;s like having dinner with Ann Margaret, circa 1967. The mojo factor in these guitars is unreal, maybe it&#8217;s the whole California mystique, I dunno. But lets face it, it&#8217;s a basically a piece of maple screwed onto a slab of ash. The simplicity of its construction and design are what make them IMHO &#8220;the guitars&#8221;. If I had to have one guitar for the rest of my life it would be a Telecaster, no doubt!!! You can play anything on that guitar, blues, country, rock, surf, and even a credible jazz sound with a Tele. My testing in these guitars is a lot more extensive as Fenders are my primary axes.</p>
<p>The aging factor is still a very important factor when it comes to sound, but I believe that the bare bones construction of Fenders make this not as crucial as the Gibby&#8217;s. Pickups are a factor but also remember that the gradual unwinding of the pickups initially make the guitar sound &#8220;funkier&#8221; but in time make the pickups microphonic. Here&#8217;s another tidbit for you &#8211; microphonic is not always bad. I was told by a longtime Ovation employee that Glen Campbell preferred microphonic pickups on his Ovation electrics as they were more responsive. I agree!!!.</p>
<p>Playability wise I think the reissue Fenders play better, I cannot say that the fretwork on a reissue Fender is as good as the originals because that is on a guitar by guitar basis. I have actually over the years played real &#8220;closet classics&#8221; and guess what the low E string still buzzed from the first five frets. Here&#8217;s another controversial statement for you &#8211; if you like buzz free low action and that&#8217;s your primary goal &#8211; play a Gibson!</p>
<p>My curiosity has made me swap vintage Fender pickups into reissue Fenders (with pre-existing quality pickups) and they did change the sound, but not better or worse just different. Again it&#8217;s all what you see as part of your sound. It&#8217;s all about your sound!!!</p>
<p>In conclusion I believe that sound and playability wise the reissue Fenders are the way to go, not necessarily the high end ones either (sorry boys!). It is on a guitar by guitar basis &#8211; a good Fender is a good Fender &#8211; the matching of the necks and bodies as far as fit, density and balance are the real telling factors. See you next month with some amp talk.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t Shoot the Messenger (1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 13:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Wright]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't remember exactly when I'd heard about Messenger guitars. But many years later, having a nice collection of guitars with aluminum necks seemed like just what I needed! I needed a Messenger.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What were they smoking when they dreamed up Messenger guitars? Such an exquisite combination of the revolutionary and banal. Well, it was San Francisco in the Summer of Love, 1967. Imagine a Cheech and Chong routine. &#8220;Like, wow, man. What if we made the neck out of a magnesium-aluminum alloy so it wouldn&#8217;t warp and then continued the block of metal on through the guitar to cut down on feedback?&#8221; &#8220;Yeah, man, we could put cool Ricky catseye soundholes on it.&#8221; &#8220;Groovy! And we could wire it so you could play out of two amplifiers at once. Like stereo, man.&#8221; Have another hit. &#8220;Then we could make it a &#8216;peoples&#8217; guitar and put crummy DeArmond single-coil pickups on it like on really cheap Harmony guitars.&#8221; &#8220;Like, wow, man. Right on.&#8221;</p>
<div id="attachment_525" style="width: 375px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-525" title="1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-01.jpg" alt="1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar" width="365" height="147" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-01.jpg 365w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-01-300x120.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 365px) 100vw, 365px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar</p></div>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember exactly when I&#8217;d heard about Messenger guitars. But many years later, having a nice collection of guitars with aluminum necks seemed like just what I needed! I needed a Messenger.</p>
<p>Sometimes these things are fore-ordained. No sooner had I decided to snare a Messenger than I scanned the ads in Vintage Guitar Magazine and turned up a minty Messenger for $750. I couldn&#8217;t believe my good fortune and got on the horn immediately. He was a nice chap, but he&#8217;d already had an offer of $1800. I didn&#8217;t want a Messenger that badly. (Little did I know what a good investment that would have been!) Crestfallen, I was about to hang up when he said, &#8220;But I&#8217;ve got this green pro refin I&#8217;d sell you for $350.&#8221; New paint or an extra $1500? You do the math!</p>
<div id="attachment_526" style="width: 362px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-526" title="1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-02.jpg" alt="1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar" width="352" height="225" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-02.jpg 352w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-02-300x191.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 352px) 100vw, 352px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar</p></div>
<p>Messengers were revolutionary. While early Electro Hawaiian laps were aluminum &#8220;frying pans&#8221; and the Italian designer Wandré Pioli had made far-out aluminum necks in the late 1950s, Messengers were the first really modern aluminum-necked guitars. Created by Musicraft, Inc., Bert T. Casey, president, and Arnold B. Curtis, head of marketing, they play like a dream &#8211; just ask Mark Farner of Grand Funk Railroad, who used them (modified). The aluminum &#8220;chassis&#8221; eliminated the need for a heel, improving access, and it was actually tuned to A-440, supposedly to improve resonance. The M logo looked, well, like a big &#8217;60s hairdo. The stereo concept was simple and great (two mono jacks for each pickup, but throw the switch and both pickups go through just one).</p>
<div id="attachment_527" style="width: 398px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img class="size-full wp-image-527" title="1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar" src="http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-03.jpg" alt="1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar" width="388" height="159" srcset="https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-03.jpg 388w, https://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/1967-musicraft-messenger-electric-guitar-03-300x122.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 388px) 100vw, 388px" /><p class="wp-caption-text">1967 Musicraft Messenger Electric Guitar</p></div>
<p>But, like so many cool guitars, the weak point in the Messenger&#8217;s armor was under the hood. Now, I love chintzy &#8217;60s single-coils, even the microphonic units, but if you&#8217;re going to create a hi-tech axe, why would you put those DeArmonds on? Why not some Filter Trons? Or Gibson or Guild humbuckers, like John Veleno a few years later? Despite its alloy chassis, Messengers were hardly fit for the emerging heavy metal craze! In the end, it didn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>By 1968 Messengers had abandoned San Fran for the rarer clime of Astoria, Oregon, for &#8220;expansion&#8221; purposes. Shortly thereafter the Messenger had departed, if not shot with a smoking gun, certainly dead. And certainly rare. If you could find one, you&#8217;d gladly pay the $1800 I once passed on.</p>
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